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What is the line between hotwifing and cuckolding

Discussion in 'Hotwifing, Swinging and Swapping' started by fkmywfxn, Jun 3, 2018.

  1. fkmywfxn

    fkmywfxn Well-Known Member

    What is the line between hotwifing and cuckolding?

    My wife has never tried to humiliate me while she is having sex with another man. She has had playmates that are much larger than I am and have given her sensations and touched her in places that she'll never experience with me. She still loves me as her husband but she craves the feelings she experiences with some of the more well endowed playmates.

    Most of them have been respectful but there is always the asshole. They can obviously see that they are bigger than I am.

    My wife loves getting fucked. She loves getting fucked by different men of all shapes and sizes. She loves bringing them to an orgasm. She can't get pregnant so everyone goes bareback. Knowing that they are cumming in her gives her great satisfaction. I don't understand it and I don't care. Knowing they are cumming in her gives me great satisfaction also.

    She went from being shy and nervous from the time I talked her into trying it to a cock hungry slut. She loves me watching her getting fucked. She knows I like seeing it and she wants to make me happy.

    My wife can't help herself but to really enjoy getting fucked by a big cock. She doesn't want me to feel bad. I understand. I'm happy that she is enjoying it.

    The asshole seeing that she is enjoying it so much and knowing that I am smaller will be a little rough with her. She loves getting fucked aggressively by a man with a big cock and a big cock attitude. I love seeing that.

    What bothers me is his attempt to humiliate me. I'll play along. She'll play along. I'm always ready to stop things if he gets too crazy and she knows it. I'm thinking is he being serious or is it just a game? Is he trying to give us both what he thinks we are expecting? I understand that what we expect might be different than what he thinks he needs to do to please us. To please her. He is making a serious effort to please her.

    I guess this why some "swingers", "hotwifers" discuss "rules" with a potential playmate.

    I/we were never into rules. We like to let things flow. We have never been in an out of control situation. There have been moments when I or she has gotten the urge to stop things but everything worked out in the end.

    I don't consider myself to be a cuckold but there have been attempts to treat me like one. Not by her but by him.

    So if I let someone treat me like a cuckold and I make him think I'm a cuckold does that make me a cuckold? I don't think so. That's my opinion.
  2. Worth It

    Worth It Well-Known Member

    First, it doesn't matter what you call it, you either like it or you don't. Some people think MFM is gay. I MFM with my wife and other guys' wives and don't care about labels.

    Audrey and I (and our play partners) have no rules as to sexual activities like no alone play or no anal or no kissing (that one is really stupid), but neither of us would tolerate assholes. It's one of the big reasons that Audrey never had sex with a lover, even a woman, until after around ten dates.

    I don't know if you would even consider me a cuckold now since I fuck other women who are also Audrey's lovers. But again, who cares about labels? More like swingers, although Audrey has much more outside sex than I do. Dick size doesn't seem to factor in, we're all about the same and the women are always getting it off good regardless.
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2018
  3. verkitwme

    verkitwme Well-Known Member

    We don't do the whole humiliation thing, that being said my lovers will usually in the course of a lovemaking session look over at my hubby and say, "look how she loves my big cock"
    Then after they cum in me say, " ok now you can have your reward" or something to that effect.
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  4. crazyinvt

    crazyinvt Active Member

    It's probable not true, but I have always believed that being a cuckold is more inline with humiliation. My wife and I never had an interest in the humiliation aspect of wife sharing. She loved to fuck and I loved to watch her fuck. To be honest, the humilation part is a big turn-off for us.
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  5. Worth It

    Worth It Well-Known Member

    Well put, same here. Initially, Audrey loves to fuck and it didn't matter to me, I just wanted her to be happy. After I started watching then participating in MFMs, and occasional MFMFs and FFMs (Audrey likes pussy), the whole thing is a turn on even when I'm not there.

    I have also developed the belief that Audrey fucking other people is the opposite of humiliation. It is an affirmation of her attractiveness and desirability. She chose her partners carefully after many dates and they are long-term. Each of them, men and women, are very respectful towards me. The married ones now have me occasionally fucking their wives, and the single guys are envious that I have Audrey as my wife.
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2018
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  6. gatorrdw

    gatorrdw Well-Known Member

    As others have stated my wife and I were not into humiliation either. She enjoyed many men over the years and a number of them were bigger than I am, many times if I was present she was asked if she was enjoying their big cock, but I don't recall of any of them comparing themselves to me. We always considered ourselves to being into "wife-sharing", but as the term "hotwife" started being used I suppose it would apply.

    The simple truth was my wife loved to fuck and loved to be fucked and what she/we were offering was her enthusiastic, married, white pussy that could be had bareback . She enjoyed flirting with men and then selecting which would have the opportunity to fuck her. GTR
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  7. crazyinvt

    crazyinvt Active Member

    I see several similarities between you and I. We have always prefered the term "Wife sharing" or "wife watching". I consider myself a voyeur not a cuckold. We don't consider her a cuckoldress or a hot wife. I like to refer to her as "easy". Like yours, my wife loved to fuck. But more than that, she loved to be fucked. Thats one of the reasons we prefer the missionary position. It refers more to her "being fucked" rather than fucking.

    As I read your statement "what she/we were offering was her enthusiastic, married, white pussy that could be had bareback", I realized it described us perfectly. We loved that she was married and getting fucked, usually by married men. ( however she only ever had one black cock in her. We both hated any kind of birth control, especially condoms. So she always, always, always went bareback. Looking back, we were very lucky. We estimate that between 200 and 250 diferent men have fucked her bare and she never caught anything. She always had them cum in her, but she only got pregnant once in 45 years of fucking. (ten years before we met).
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  8. Worth It

    Worth It Well-Known Member

    Interesting. For my wife, with guys it is always her doing the fucking, regardless of position. She tells them what she wants, how she wants it, and how fast. With me and other women, however, it is balanced, tending to our needs and desires. (But always bareback.)
  9. desimilf80

    desimilf80 Member

    I generally dont go with my wife on her dates, but I love to hear her account afterwords and preparing her for the date. So am I a cuckolding or hotwifing?

    We dont swap wives, it is just her going on dates alone,
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  10. Worth It

    Worth It Well-Known Member

    It doesn't matter what you call it. It amazes me all the variations of what goes on here. Just explore and enjoy.
  11. vladdy

    vladdy Active Member

    fkmywfxn, I don't think your so much asking about what to do about cuckolding but rather what to do about Mr. Asshole. If you both like Mr A. but want him to tone it down. After she is done fucking him next time, just discuss with him that he should tone down 'whatever thing' he is saying in the future.

    It does sound like your doing some not so humiliating cuckolding. But that is so label driven. Just enjoy what you both enjoy. If you like the thought of being a cuckold call yourself that. If you don't, you certainly could call yourselves swingers.
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  12. verkitwme

    verkitwme Well-Known Member

    We prefer Hotwife
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  13. gatorrdw

    gatorrdw Well-Known Member

    verkitwme; you are the true definition of a "hotwife". GTR
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  14. Bartleby

    Bartleby Well-Known Member

    My situation is similar to that of desimilf80. I don't get to see anything, I only get some snippets of information about the lovemaking and have a sweet time imagining the rest. My wife has decided she wants to fuck around and will keep on doing this. We have a bit of a problem with her first lover, so yesterday she hinted that maybe it would be a better idea if her lovers would not be from our circle of friends. She may in the future even go as far as hooking up with strangers. My wife loves me and wants to have sex with me as much as she wants to have sex with someone else. There is no humiliation intended at all from her side. She would even allow me to have sex with others as well.

    For me, however, the joy lies in a certain humiliation that probably only exists in my mind alone. I want my wife to feel free to fuck around without regards to me. I want the guys to know that they are fucking my wife and I am happy with it. I want to see myself as a cuckold while my wife is having fun with guys who are just better at sex than I am. So I guess I am the one who made myself a cuckold because that is the definition I enjoy. I think everyone can just define whatever they want for themselves.
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  15. desimilf80

    desimilf80 Member

    We started about 2 years ago and it took a lot of persuasion and talking through it, my wife said that she would prefer her lover to be someone from our circle of friends, and my wife's first lover was one of my single friends that I setup, she enjoyed going out with him, then after a few times it became a bit awkward when we saw each other at get together or parties. Wife stopped seeing him then.

    Next lover was someone we met on a forum, on the next couple of occasions it was our acquaintances, and on once a man we met on a flight to Fiji. So far it was always me who would start the conversation not her, and unless she has been with the lover a few times and can find out about him, she uses a condom but lets them cum on her body, face and clothes.

    Just a few weeks ago for the first time she asked me if she could go out with her ex manager, who had since moved companies and she did fancy him. Later she reported that it was the best date ever for her. The only issue is that she did not tell the man that she is a hotwife, so he thinks it was an affair as he too is married.

    She is planning to go out again this week with him.
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  16. legshowcuck

    legshowcuck Well-Known Member

    She is a HotWife who cuckolds me...
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  17. Bartleby

    Bartleby Well-Known Member

    I really enjoy the part that the lover is known to me and we see each other. It only gets awkward when the lover and the wife are not friends anymore.

    Great that your wife is getting more independent in her hotwife life.
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  18. Worth It

    Worth It Well-Known Member

    Audrey's lovers are from before we met. Meeting them, both the men and the women, was something we agreed on as we became serious and discussed marriage. It turned Audrey's extra sex from a "doesn't matter" to a turn on for me.
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  19. gwil1414

    gwil1414 Member

    Your last paragraph is contradictory. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...it’s a duck. If you don’t want to be treated like a cuckold then communicate up front what your expectations are and be assertive. “Hey, I love watching my wife getting fucked hard by a big cock. She loves it too. That doesnt mean I feel inferior in any way, just so we are clear. Let’s make the night about her pleasure and mine. You will have a lot of fun too doing it so long as are respectful. If at any time either of us feel you are not, it stops. Now? Want to have fun with my wife??” That’s it. I would not mind watching my wife get fucked by a bigger cock. But in no way do I feel inferior (we have not btw Walked down that path).
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  20. Kudalskies

    Kudalskies Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Supposedly Simple!

    A Hotwife is a married female swinger; a wife who has sex with men other than her husband, with the husband's approval.

    A Cuckold is a man married to an unfaithful wife, especially when he is unaware or unaccepting of the fact.

    Surprisingly neither insert (humiliation) which is something my wife and I enjoy very much. still makes us unsure of what lifestyle we're into o_O
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2018
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