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Discussion in 'BDSM' started by DomMorgan, Mar 26, 2008.

  1. DomMorgan

    DomMorgan Guest

    For several years, I attended the Black Rose conventions in Washington DC. These were amazing events that grew to taking over two and a half hotels. In the primary hotel, outside customers could not enter even the lobby. They were met at the front registration table by Black Rose members with registration lists, and a local police officer. Yes, they hired the local police. In DC, laws are a little lax. And let's face it. A lot of police like bondage (grin).

    I need to skip ahead in my story. They had a dungeon party that was absolutely not something that most of America has ever seen, or would allow. It was a full convention floor filled with countless (well, I didn't count them) bondage devices, display areas, and demonstrations. But this was a party. People could simply play.

    I was a vendor at the time, albeit attending with my female slave. Occasionally I would wander the floor, leaving her to "vend" my BDSM toys. And at one point, I saw a scene that absolutely fascinated me. OK, I saw many (grin). But one got me to thinking about the cuckold lifestyle more than the BDSM lifestyle.

    First, let's understand the laws. No one's cock was going into anyone's orifices. For that matter, I remember one female police officer who got flipped out that there was going to be a female fisting demonstration. She was sure that was illegal. It was only after one of the Black Rose board members, a lady who was a lawyer with a specialty in sexual practices took her aside, that that demonstration was allowed to continue.

    And still I am not to my point. But given the bizarre nature of the event, I bet you are still reading (grin). So to get to my point.

    At one stand, less physically impressive than at least a hundred others, two dominatrixes had cuffed their two submissive male partners together, standing, face-to-face, completely nude. The males were essentially squashed together. And while I have to admit that many men and women in the lifestyle are not much to look at, they were hunks. And they were hung. And they were hard.

    And what was causing that last part? Each domina was leaning against the ear of her partner while feeding two fingers into the mouth of the other partner. On each insertion, each would yell at their partner "cock sucker!" They had to yell. The music and other exhibits were loud. Over and over again they yelled it, and it was obviously working as the two naked guys squirmed against each other.

    I saw other things that night and other nights that were amazing. But that one got me to thinking about things that night the lead directly into this lifestyle.

    If those guys thought they were bi, those couples would have been up in their room having group sex. But I paused, watched the faces of both the men and women, and came to a conclusion. Those men were willing to be publicly (well, public to a bunch of us pervs) humiliated precisely because they had no natural interest in sucking a cock. They had an interest in having Mistress press their boundaries. They would suck a cock to show their devotion to her. If they were wired that way, it wouldn't be the same.


    Yes, I know. Cuckolding is not about having a Mistress. But it is about having a cuckoldress, and finding it so erotic that she could have more sexual enjoyment in her life than you can deliver that you want her to enjoy the thrill of seduction, sexual exploration, etc.

    And yet, cucks want to be a part of it. They often don't think of themselves as submissive. But if they are allowed a role--any role--they are at least aware of what is happening. On one end, there are those who are content to know that she is on a date.
    On the other end, there are those who would love to be in the room, or even participate.

    How does one participate? If you are a full sexual partner, you cross the boundary into hotwifing, not cuckolding. I've experienced that. But cuckolding fantasies cross the boundary into submission for the sake of her pleasure. Personally speaking, I admire that behavior in my lovers' husbands (grin).

    She is not likely to ask you to be a cock sucker, as those women at the convention were doing. But the dynamics are similar. One sucks a cock (or more frequently licks out a freshly fucked pussy) to give one's female partner evidence of her control. But the difference between BDSM and cuckolding is that often cuckolds have a distracted rather than a dominant female partner.

    I know that those two men in that party scene were feeding off the pleasure of submitting to their Mistresses. But at least their Mistresses were taunting them. When you want to be taunted to go that far to share the experience with your spouse, but she is not taunting enough (if at all), the internal fantasies take over. In your mind it is your Mistress calling "cock sucker" while someone else is poking their fingers in and out of your mouth.

    Well, during the party they were fingers. But once they got to the room upstairs, after having been publicly displayed for any and everyone to see, and when the cops were not present, I would bet that their Mistresses had them do the rest. And knowing Mistresses, I bet they were less kind than merely calling them cock suckers (grin).

    You mileage may, and probably does, vary. But ah, thanks for the memories.

    Morgan
     
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  2. Sassy

    Sassy New Member

    I can totally get what you are saying... My hubby not only wants to be cucked, but be totally submissive to my whims. He's not interested in the punishment as in spanking/pain, etc. Nor would he be interested in the feminization part, such as the wearing the panties situation, or being told that he's an inferior lover.

    Do I think he's naturally bi? No.... Do I think he's twisted just enough that he would enjoy submitting to things totally out of his nature? Yes.. I think it's the taboo that intrigues him. The things that on his own he wouldn't consider, but the thought of doing it because it is my wish.. I'm most certain he would. He and I both feed so much off the other's pleasure responses.

    I've forced this big huge cornbread fed country boy to his knees and had him suck me before taking a strap on to him. I could tell the first time he was so uncomfortable with it, and almost stopped, until he reached back and felt how wet I was from it and that was all it took for him to get lost in it. It wasn't about me turning him into my 'bitch' so to speak that got me as much as it was having the power over such a strong powerful man. If he'd been some wimpy thing, there would have been no arrousal in it for me, but it's like trying to rope the wind, or trying to ride a bull without getting bucked off. (Not to offend anyone, but for lack of better terminology.. If he was a sissy, I would just abuse the situation). But because he's not, I take pleasure in it.
     
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  3. newsub4A

    newsub4A Distinguished Member

    Excellent observation Sassy. I have to say that the taboo is what drives me. I have had some bi experinces, but all in all did not care for them. I have (and do) enjoying being "forced" bi by My Goddess for Her pleasure. She and i both know that it is something i enjoy. Fortunetly She hates sucking cock and enjoys seeing me do it so it works out for both of us. Sometimes Her lovers are not to happy about it and often refuse to allow it. Those guys are normally not invited back unless they are awsome lovers.
     
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  4. KimM2F

    KimM2F Transsexual 2 Female Cuck

    Clairity In Purpose

    Sassy, I'm grateful you shared what the real meaning and turn-on for what has happened. No offense was taken, and even if I was known a sissy (and have been abused). I was compelled to tell you the distinctions you'd written very well noted your reality which you described.

    I was formerly cucked and any relationship I have with a woman would likely include cuckolding. It was all about going in directions I'd not achieve by myself, but a 'limitation of capacity to accomodate' ended it in 2002.

    Sassy, I'm glad you have the clairity you do. I'd like to be that clear one day myself.

    Many Thanks, Kim
     
  5. gussie

    gussie New Member

    A few years ago, I attended Beat me in St. louis, I went with another sub (female). I was having a good time and ran into a Domme with whom I had a great time. She had a male sub and she had me scuk him for her and he did the same to me.

    I also saw a lot of the same going on, with other groups, I didn't mind because that was what I am into.
     
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  6. DomMorgan

    DomMorgan Guest

    We seem to be developing a consensus

    Gussie: Thanks for posting. I never made it to Beat Me. However, I heard good things. I began what was intended as a cross-over post because I have seen so many people struggling with the concept of bisexuality. I have too little information to know your preferences. So allow me to speak more generally.

    How do you tell if you are bi? To me, it is fairly simply, although the boundaries are a bit blurred. I can look at a babe and get an immediate chemical reaction in the groin. I can look at a nude hunk with a nice erection and think "that looks like fun." But there is a difference. There isn't that chemical attraction. If the erection isn't included, even KingBull's avatar is not going to make me think "that looks like fun." :)

    I'll put it a different way. Do guys who are in committed relationships, and who would reject the opportunity to have sex with women still fantasize about the possibilities? The answer is likely yes, because they are wired that way. Do they fantasize, or could they fantasize about having sex with a man with no woman present? The answer to that, in my mind, is the decisive factor between whether you should consider yourself to be bi, or submissive. Of course, there is also the possibility of being both. But then the "bi" question is answered.

    I don't know what your motives were that evening on the chemical attraction front, except for the variable that has not been introduced. You are attracted to submission. I am attracted to dominance, and therefore molding the pleasure of my partner.

    May we both have a heck of a good time!

    Morgan
     
  7. gussie

    gussie New Member

    I knew I was bi for quite awhile, I always enjoyed women, but had this nagging idea that I might enjoy men too. While I was stationed in Korea a friend of mine had a yobo ( a live in girlfriend). Once when we were at his house we were drinking and what started out as a straight threesome wnet to the next step.

    After that I never looked back, my wife enjoys both men and women, so we have some fun.

    I did have a great time at beat me, I learned quite a few things there I didn't know. I met lots of great people and generally had a wonderful time. i would like to go this year but cannot get vacation time that weekend.

    Most of the people we play with know i am bi, as are they, I have run into some problems with both men and women who are phobic.

    I have been with dominant men and women, I like the sub role it is more fun for me. I find that I enjoy women quite a bit, but it is hard for me to turn down a nice erection too. If I can have both I really enjoy it.


    I hope that answers some of your questions, my first BDSM experience was with a Dom in Milwaukee, he had both male and female subs. He would orchstrate what scenarios we would do. If you followed the rules and obeyed you had more fun.
     
  8. gussie

    gussie New Member

    I have attended munches and play parties here in SE Wisconsin and N. Ill, most of the people are very nice and receptive, some Doms are not receptive to Bi males and some are. The same with Dommes and sub females, I have had some women just look at me and other bi men with outright disgust. I got used to it, I always make it clear to peopl I play with that I am bi, and if its a problem let me know up front. i also tell them it is not a requirement for me just an option that I like to explore.


    I belonged to nice group in Naperville and we would go to the the Leather Rose in Chicago, and play there. One Dom had a nice dungeon in his basement and was very professional at what he did. He was a great flogger.

    The group I belonged to in Naperville was run by a couple and I was made to service both at different times but both spouses as well as mine was present. We did some sissy stuff, but when I dressed as a woman I looked a bit odd so we didn't do that very much.


    While at Beat me, I saw quite a bit of Bi sex in both genders, some sissy and crossdresser they had great classes on wax and fire play and electrical items. I heard about the the DC area get together but couldn't afford to go. Wish I could have.
     
  9. stuckcuck

    stuckcuck Well-Known Member

    the answer

    there is no simple answer to the cocksucking question, bi,gay,cuck,sub? there are men from every group that make up the cuckold population, and even more reasons that we arrived there. some of us just like sex and the more we are denied, the more varied our tastes grow. definitions are just descriptions to try and pidgeon hole people. experimenting or crossing boundries in the heat of passion or to please a lover means you are willing to please but does not define who you are. isn't everyone curious to find out what a cock tastes like? c'mon, just once?
     
  10. Ohsobadd

    Ohsobadd Active Member

    Interesting topical thread here...

    My first hubby was not what I would term gay at all. towards the end of our marriage I did abuse him although more mentally than physically. It has never been my "thing" as it were however as I read the above posts I do recall forcing him to enagae in oral sex on a male.

    I had a lover at the time that was very dom. It was his thing and although I had and still have no desire to sub he was fun.

    Anyway hubby had been home on an evening I was out. My lover was invited to my home as I was feeling in need and not wanting to go to a hotel. My lover had no problem with hubby being at home. To make a long story short he and I were enjoying each other in the lving room while hubby was upstairs. Hubby came down and stood watching as I rode my lover.

    Feeling particularly evil I told him to make himself useful and get us some water. He did and when he returned he handed to me and stood just inches from us as I rode a very stiff cock. I have no idea why but I told him to get on his knees and lick my lover's balls. Hubby hesitated and I again ordered him onto his knees. He did it and I was amazed.

    I grabbed him by the hair and brought his mouth to my lovers balls and told him simply, "lick them." He hesitated, sighed and then started to gently lick the balls in front of him. (My lover shaved his balls as I enjoy that) Soon my lover was getting very excited and so was I. This was an unexpected direction and I enjoyed it terribly.

    Soon my lover was groaning he was going to cum and without being told to hubby sucked both of my lovers heavy balls into his mouth and my lover lost it. As many women can attest you can sometimes feel a man cumming inside you...I could and I felt his cock spasm and twitch as he came very very hard. Hubby never stopped sucking his balls.

    After we had calmed down hubby got up and left. My lover told me he was exhausted. He said he had never experienced anything like that before and found the feeling of my husbands mouth on his balls while he came to be incredible. I for one found the mental picture of hubby having to assist me in making a lover cum to be quite powerful.

    After that it became a bit of a ritual with hubby sucking his balls as my lover came. I would tease hubby about feeling my lovers balls twitch in his mouth as they filled me with their warm juice...and how humilated he must feel to suck the balls of the man who is fucking his wife in front of him...sadly that lover moved on and hubbys actions were not repeated.

    Hubby never actually sucked cock but he got very close. And I smile knowing he lives with the thought of it every day.

    :::Kisses:::
     
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  11. wifes_craving

    wifes_craving Well-Known Member

    Love this post. I consider myself straight however I am turned on by a large cock. My wifes lover has recently begun to order me to suck his cock each time he comes or cums........lol.....to our home. The wife has called me a "little cocksucker" as his cock was in my mouth. I can see her excitement as she is watching me with his cock sliding across my tongue. She loves the humiliation aspect of me having to suck a "real mans" cock. He has yet to cum in my mouth........however he has said that he is going to sometime and the wife said that she cant wait for him to shoot into my mouth. I must admit that I am looking forward to this also.
     
  12. gussie

    gussie New Member

    I know the feeling Wife's Craving, I have sucked my wife's lovers in front of her at her request and his demand. I have seen the glazed look in her eye.
     
  13. Lunch for a cuck

    It's especially thrilling when the Bull orders me to show my appreciate for his time and energy in fucking my wife. She has two regular bulls now, one Black and one Turkish. The Turkish bull calls me up a few times a week and commands me to meet him at his construction company office for lunch, only ten minutes from where I work. I get to crawl under the table and enjoy the flavour and texure of his huge cock while he eats, and reminds me that he has a date with my wife tonight. I just suck the harder. He makes me soooo hungry. Lovely.

    I only suck Bull cock by the way. For my wife's Turk is a true master and I'm not interested in serving any other (except her black Bull of course), unless he wishes me to. Which he has arranges from time to time. I am his property.
     
  14. atljerbear35

    atljerbear35 New Member

    My 2-cents

    I have never had a chemical or romantic attraction to another man, and yet, I've been sucking cock literally since I was 7 years old, and lost my anal "cherry" at age 15. I frequently refer to myself as "bi", because nothing else even comes close. For me, it's about connecting to my feminine side, and when I'm sucking cock or doing other sexually submissive activities (use your imagination...wink-wink), I can be- for brief periods of time- the woman I wish I had been born as!

    The moment of truth- as always- is the orgasm. Whenever I have a man's cock balls-deep down my throat and feel him spurt gob after gob of hot cum directly down my gullet, I become- in that moment- the hot-looking female 3-hole gangbang slut and cumdump I jack off to in so many videos and pictures; because his orgasm affirms and confirms that I am, at the core, far more feminine than masculine, and truly submissive by nature as well as by choice. My masculine side is even more turned on if a woman watches or directs the action- it reinforces my humiliation as a sub-standard male and helps to emasculate me at the same time.

    So, my 2-cents is this; straight men sucking cock is far more about accessing their inner femininity, than it is about truly gay or bisexual behaviour.... TA-DAAAA!
     
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  15. stealth

    stealth New Member

    good explanation

    Thanks Dom Morgan, for making things that are very confusing to us newbies a little clearer.
     
  16. VROB

    VROB New Member

    You make an excellent point Stuckcuck. My wife has come across a number of men that are so bi-curious they were about to explode. And the sad thing, there are so many guys out there that will not admit to themselves just how bi-curious they REALLY are.

    BTW, a lot of straight guys wanting to suck cock become bi/gay. It happens!

    VROB
     
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  17. poormissy

    poormissy New Member

    Pov

    Hi Dom,

    One point that you made in your initial post about the distinction between hotwifing and cuckolding wasn't completely clear to me. Em and I have a very sexual life. We do all sorts of things. More than she does with other men. I am faithful to her by obeying her wishes. If she wants me to penetrate her then that's what I do. If she says no then I refrain. Even when we have penetrative sex there is almost always an element of humiliation involved--perhaps I'm tied up and she's comparing me disparagingly to another man.

    I don't want to dwell too much on the subtle nuances of the various terms. Each to his own. We all define ourselves through the complex bonding rituals that suit us.

    I wanted rather to address the main point of this thread: straightguys sucking cock.

    I am Emma Kelly's husband/slave/cuckold. I basically feel that sucking cock is a submissive act. I get off on submission and humiliation. I think that's the focus. For me, if a kinky guy wants to do something to me and he triggers my sub-space, he's got me by the balls. I am open to a wider spectrum of sexual exploration when I am aroused than I would accept on a routine basis.

    Without that component I am predominantly heterosexual. I could never bond with a male in the intimate day to day way that I have with women. I've never sought that kind of ongoing relationship with a man.

    But a hard cock is a highly charged sexual reality that demands attention. A big hard cock makes a statement. Just like a dripping pussy. Touch me, lick me, use me.

    There are demands that can't be ignored.

    Best

    scott Kelly aka poormissy
     
  18. ufotofu1

    ufotofu1 New Member

    This sums up exactly how i feel. i have no interest in men at all. But i do desire the feeling of a superior man's cock in my mouth, on my face, etc. i love to be commanded to suck cock almost as much as i love to beg for the opportunity to suck cock. But i don't think of myself as bi or at all gay. It's all part of the humiliation and submission.
     
  19. Bi4Cpls42

    Bi4Cpls42 New Member

    I would agree that sucking cock does not necessarily make one gay or even bi.
    I was a bull for a couple for almost a year. The wife became more dominant over hubby as we became closer friends. She new I could be a switch for playing dominant or submissive. One evening, we had an extra bull in the room. I was familiar with him, but had only met him briefly on one other occassion.
    I thought it would be fun to have hubby humiliated in front of both of us.......but I was mistaken.
    The wife actually ordered me to prepare both her husband and the bull......the tables were turned and it actually turned me on quite extensively!
    She ordered me to keep each one of them hard with my mouth and tongue while the other pleased her.......it was quite the erotic evening for sure and quite the surprize too!

    I don't consider myself gay or bi, but the thought of being forced to do the honorable BJ on the lover is humbling and erotic.
     
  20. cockNchains

    cockNchains HotWifey is a SlutyWifey

    This is exactly how I feel about my experiences with other men. Normally I would have no interest, or even thoughts of having any type of sexual activity with another male. But put my wife in the same room...put me in submission...put a cock in front of my face...have her tell me to suck it...and I'll do just that.

    My arousal comes from my submission & the humiliation of having to do something that's considered 'taboo' and (for me) 'unnatural' in front of my wife and the guy I'm sucking, and the act of being used for the purpose of pleasuring someone else.

    Thanks to all for a great thread....
     
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