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Anatomical question about long-term chastity
I'm noticing that the longer I remain in chastity (cb-6000), the lower my balls hang, and the bigger the "sack" is getting. This is allowing the device to slide down farther, thus creating a situation where I can "slip out" if I so chose.
I'm a truck driver, so I was away the last week. I found myself slipping out of the device to urinate so I wouldn't have to always sit on the public toilets...it was kinda nice. But of course the mental submission of chastity is broken in those moments where I know I'm able to get out, I'm just going along with it like a good boy.
I mean, having free will and choosing submission is powerful in and of itself, but I do kinda miss having the choice taken from me like it was the first few days in the device.
So what's the solution? A larger ring, a smaller spacer, or what? I had what I finally thought to be the perfect setup, and now it's...not so much. I could, of course, just experiment; but if someone has a definitive solution to this problem, it'd be much appreciated and save me some time and trouble. *grin*
Thanks in advance.
Oh...and she played once with our current bull while I was away. It fucking KILLED me. lol
But I guess I get an award tonight. Yay.
I'm not that familiar with the cb-6000 but I know with the curve we had to get down to a pretty small ring (which created its own issues). I think the thing with these plastic devices (I know they aren't really plastic but I don't know what they are) is that they are good for long term wear because of their weight but not necessarily completely inescapable. Scott was constantly figuring out how to get himself off (and then confessing so he could be punished!)
Try a smaller ring first but if that doesn't work, you might try a couple of things. You might get a more industrial device for short term "intense" wear (a gerecke tube or something like that) or you might try to sort out some kind of piercing that allows your partner to truly lock you in the cb-6000. Scott has a PA and an ampalang piercing. We use the PA as a kind of lock for his device. We take the captive bead out and pull the piercing through one of the spaces and then put the bead back on after.
Now if he really really wanted to get out, he could go to a piercing shop and have them open it or buy the tool to open it. Or he could go to a hardware store and get pliers. But it does it make it that much harder and that is enough for us with that device. We have two others that he couldn't get out of without a metal saw!
They probably make some kind of piercing jewelry that you could use to truly lock yourself in (or you might be able to get one customized). I really do recommend trying to find some way to get the plastic device to be more secure. Especially with sitting on your balls all day long, a metal device might just be too hard (literally, I think metal doesn't do well against the body for long periods of time).
We have found that long-term denial enforced with a chastity device is pretty difficult. We have used over the years the Curve, the CB-2000, and the CB-3000, but all of these are pretty hard on my body. I've worn the Curve and the CB-3000 for up to two days, but it pretty much takes a week to recover from that. The CB-2000 is just unworkable--it's too small, for one thing (and therefore hard to get on, actually, and painful to wear for even a few minutes), and, paradoxically, also fairly easy to get out of (something we discovered when it happened accidentally the first time).
Even though they're not very comfortable or practical, I do wear one sometimes--usually putting it on in the afternoon before a session with one of Z's partners and typically leaving it on for 24 hours after they have cum in her. That's about the limit of what I can bear--I actually get some pretty uncomfortable swelling in my nuts that lasts for 24 to 48 hours after taking it off, and that's when wearing the CB-3000 or the Curve.
We have found that if we're going to go the route of denying me access to Z's cunt for longer periods than about a day, there are actually other methods that work better. Short of the honor system, which really doesn't work either, the best one we have found is actually one that one of Z's long-term regulars came up with about twenty years ago. He pierced Z's labia on each side in five places, ten piercings in all (it was the days before piercing parlors were everywhere, so we did this ourselves--I got to help, and watch). He then put ten very small earrings through each of the piercings (again, there were no piercing parlors, so he had bought them at a jewelery store) and then threaded a very light, extremely fine gold chain through them. He then put two more of the earrings on the ends of the chain and when he had the whole thing nicely arranged and configured, he soldered the earrings closed (very carefully, so as not to burn Z) and then put a very high quality brass lock he had bought at a hardware store through the end earrings to close the chain.
He kept the key, of course. He kept Z that way for about six months, unlocking the chain and removing it whenever he came over to fuck Z. During that time he let other guys fuck Z on a few occasions, but I never got to. When he relented and took the chain off he let me fuck her after he'd cum inside her, but he asked me to wear a condom.
I could have fucked her in the ass, of course, and Z and I actually talked about that (because she wasn't getting enough sex, actually, since her guy lived some distance away), but the very fact that the chain was there was enough additional incentive for us to avoid doing that as long as we found another guy to fuck her there. So I was deprived for the whole time. Interesting experience. I certainly could have cut the chain off, but the very fact that it's there is enough to induce a kind or aroused compliance--we would never have cut it off.
The closest we've come more recently is with a guy who is frequently on this board--dark_water_diver, who fucks Z occasionally (a favorite partner, but someone who lives about three hours from us, which makes it a once or twice a year event). I've worn the CB-3000 for up to two days starting from a few hours before he fucks Z (the drive down to meet him with that on is an interesting experience!) until almost two days afterwards. In fact, the video that's posted in our folder on the X-Drive of dwd fucking Z actually shows me in the device in several sections.
The experience of being physically denied access to my wife's cunt while another guy is not only fucking her but cumming inside her without a condom is something that's quite exciting--huge amounts of angst and erotic humiliation mixed with overpowering arousal. If it didn't hurt so much we'd probably do it more often--we really don't want to have to make a trip to the hospital because I've injured myself (especially since Z is a doctor--that would be a little weird to explain). So we doubt the stories that talk about wearing one of these contraptions for very long, and I simply don't believe they can be worn for weeks or months, as some claim they do. Maybe there are more comfortable and less dangerous devices, but we haven't found one. On top of that, with my travel for work, wearing one that would set off a detector at an airport isn't an option, so the choices are limited.
If you're interested in seeing how one of these devices works, take a look at our X-Drive video that shows me in the CB-3000 (and you can see by the trickle of pre-cum that it was at a happy time for all three of us). Or maybe I can figure out a way to drop a frame of it here.
It would be nice to find a method that would allow this kind of denial on a loner-term, or even permanent, basis, but so far we have not found one.
Last edited by Larson; 07-04-2008 at 11:27 AM.
Chastity as an Anger Management Program
Larson, My wife uses Chastity as an anger management tool.. Never been there for a year, but a month did seem like a year.. Maximum penalty is one year, but it can be split up with time-outs, but all time must be paid... My PA piercing wasn't healed long enough when I got my first one week penalty and 5 days worth of penalty was saved till the PA healed for another full 3 months... I will say that my temper has been tamed quite a bit, but I did lose it recently... Currently she's looking for a tee shirt for me to wear to the company crab feast. Refusal to wear it could be a years worth of chastity... She would love to find one with this site on it.. I would take a years worth of chastity before I wear one with "I Love Cream Pies" to a Company outing.........
I know that EmmaK posted some negatives about using a Miss Lori's Chastity Device, but I must say that one of her devices did improve my temper. It was custom made, but required one simple adjustment. Compared to one of the CB models, it's escape proof...
BTW, I think she wants me locked in chastity this fall when her class reunion cums around...
Enough said for now,
Larson, that's a hell of a story. Long-term denial via piercings...wow. lol
I also had a cb-2000, and it was HELL. When I would get nighttime erections, the thing would strangulate my balls in ways too painful to describe. It was a horrorshow and a nightmare. I basically gave up on chastity (I also had a series of vanilla relationships, so that was helpful). When I got back together with my ex-wife (the kinkiest bitch I've ever known), we wanted to try it again. I'd hoped the technology had improved.
I'm a bit on the short side, so with the proper spacers and rings, I'm actually able to get fully erect in the cb-6000. This plays a MAJOR role in comfort. The device is not ripped away from my body by forceful erections, and I am thus a happy boy. No edema on my sack, like you described, and no painful pinching or pulling.
But...security is an issue.
Maybe I should look into a Lori's device as Emma said...but if metal doesn't work well on skin long-term, that could be an issue. I take road trips that are as long as a week sometimes (it's rare, but it DOES happen). Comfort is a big component...but then again, so is not giving my penis access to my fumbling dickbeaters. lol
I'll be thinking about this one. Thanks for the advice you guys.
hi ,, i don`t consider the C/B`s or other devices as chastity-belts ,, only the real steel belts are doing the job .. devices are just toys and hurt.. i am permanent in my chastity-belt and that since years .. they are easy to wear secure , hygienic and very comfortable during the day and night .. to me it is a privilege to be under strict control and permanent locked up.. anyway i think for us cuckys there is no better way than locked in a decent and secure full chastity-belt !! reg.. GWENY
It might be that way for you, gweny. That doesn't apply for everyone though. I'm a month from being locked up in a CB3000 for a year, and it feels great around my little dicklet. Ok, sometimes it hurts a little in the night, but that is not often and it passes soon. With a tight ring and spacer it is also secure. I have no possibility to masturbate (Gabby once checked that it wouldn't come off.)
Originally Posted by gweny
I guess all cucks are different, and CB3000 works great for me...
Mmmm, this limp sissy just love Bulls...
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scott Kelly Chiming In
Em has locked me up for 6 months using the Curve. Our Curve is modified...that is the tube has been shortened and the pins were replaced with metal ones.
I think everyone is different...I had incredible problems with Ms. Lori's device and had to sell it. She was all sweetness and light before the tube arrived but then wasn't very helpful afterwards when it didn't work.
We purchased 3 Neosteel belts. I have only been able to wear the one we finally kept for about a week. Fatigue sets in and belts get too cumbersome to wear in all situations. If I was actually enslaved by a woman and ran around her house naked in one of these things and wasn't allowed out then maybe I could live in this device. While I am in it I am completely secure and there is no way I can get off.
We also have a steel tube by Gerecke that is great. The design is off a little and I start having abrasions after a few days. I think if it was made of titanium and the gap between the tube and the ring was at a slightly smaller angle then this device would be just right.
For long term 24/7 the only thing that's ever worked for us was the Curve. It takes a combination of accepting the reduced psychological aspect of being locked in plastic rather than metal and then getting into the tease/denial games for it to have the psychological impact that we both crave.
When I am locked up for these longer times I eventually get into a very submissive headspace. Em has me service her orally almost daily. My levels of arousal and frustration go through the roof and her orgasms become explosive. We get into a D/s symbiosis that prpels us deeper and deeper.
These days our lifestyle has changed and unfortunately we just haven't used the chastity devices as much. If you are a bike rider like me, 24/7 is basically not realistic. Em still sees other guys when she meets one that strikes her fancy and she still uses other forms of bdsm to underscore her dominance as time allows.
Feel free to ask me or my wife, EmmaK, questions regarding chastity, etc. It's one area, in addition to cuckolding, which we know quite well.
scott (aka poormissy)
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Has anyone any info on chastity piercings?
I have tried a few differant devices and it seems to all come down to comfort and security.
A good piercing design would be comfortable and very secure.
I was thinking of a Locking Princes Wand with a 180 degree curve. that would prevent erections and hopefully cumming as well
Permanent Chastity Piercing
Hey there Gingers_sub,
I have seen pictures of an infibulation piercing wherein the penis was pierced at the base and a large metal hoop was inserted through it and out the pee hole. I can't recall whether a urethral reroute was required for this or not. In theory, such a piercing would obviously disallow penetrative sex and I believe that erections would also be painful.
Often, the simplest designs are not only the most elegant but also the most brutal.
I like it. I'll have to discuss this more with Em.
scott (aka poormissy)
Mrs. Kelly's Playhouse
Last edited by poormissy; 08-04-2008 at 01:35 PM.
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Just wanted to clarify something for Chicagobaby. I didn't and don't recommend a Lori Tube. The device I was talking about is a Gerecke tube made by this guy in Germany. As some have posted, they had good luck with Lori's stuff but we really didn't (really seriously DID NOT).
We belonged to a chastity website for a while and some people claimed to be in devices 24/7 but having owned some of the very best belts and devices around and not being about to get that to work, we decided that true 24/7 forever probably wasn't a realistic option.
I think a lot depends on who you are, where you work, etc, etc. Scott was never able to comfortably wear a belt or chastity device and ride his bike but other's claim to do just fine with it. A belt is kind of impractical if you've got kids around. It's something that can easily be felt and noticed through the clothing. I don't want my kid saying, "Hey, Dad's wearing his metal underwear again."
I think it is like a lot of things on the net: You can say anything in a forum or chatroom and claim it's true but who really knows what is true. And, of course, everyone's body is different and needs are different.
We use chastity now to heighten the intensity of our cuckolding games. Still fun but not quite as intense as the stuff we've done in the past.
A company called Keptforher.com sells a nylon covered metal strand or rope. It's about 8" long with loops on the end. If you have a PA piercing you put the piercing through the end of the cb6000 and thread the rope through it and lock the two loops to the padlock. Works good. Adds security. Make sure the piercing is healed up good first. I kinda messed mine up because it wasn't healed all the way.
Originally Posted by EmmaK